GitP/A/Log/26/09/26 Sat - RSS Project/Q/What Backblaze Options would work with Logseq?

• My Question
  • I don't have clarity on the design of how backblaze maps on to logseq yet, I could use some design thinking guidance here.
  • I was originally thinking that maybe I could use rclone to map assets/b2 in each logseq garden to a backblaze remote. Then I could make some affordances like mise file tasks to translate between logseq images and remote references in the CDN.
  • Some of my gardens are public (like logseq-encode-garden), while others are private (like logseq-garden). The idea is tha the backblaze bucket settings should reflect the logseq garden's visibility settings appropriately.
  • I'm seeing the assets being stored in backblaze as an alternative to git lfs.
• AI/Response
  • Your assets/b2 idea is workable, but the key design choice is how each garden’s notes refer to assets. A mounted directory can make remote files feel local in Logseq; it does not, by itself, make those links work in a fresh Git checkout or on a published page.

  • Garden	B2 storage	Link in Logseq
    Public garden	Publicly served bucket and stable CDN URLs	CDN URL, or a local link converted during publishing
    Private garden	Private bucket with a key available only on your authenticated devices	Local path supplied by a mount or downloaded copy

    • My Notes
      • this matches my idea, yes.
  • Use separate buckets for public and private assets. Backblaze’s public setting permits anyone to download objects in the bucket, so a private prefix inside a public bucket would not protect private garden files. Your answer that private assets are for your authenticated devices only points to a private bucket and local paths, with no public CDN URL for those notes. The existing encode-garden bucket may serve the public side once its settings and key scope are verified. Backblaze bucket access settings
  • I would treat assets/b2 as a local view, not the whole storage design. rclone mount could put a B2 path there, but Logseq then depends on the mount process and network access; an ignored mount directory will be absent from another checkout. For private assets, a mise task that downloads files into assets/b2 may be more dependable, especially if you want notes readable offline. A mount remains a useful option if online access is acceptable. rclone mount documentation
    • My Notes
      • For the most part, I think a mount would meet my needs.
  • For public assets, I’d prototype a mise publish task that uploads one asset, verifies it, and produces its CDN reference. Then decide whether the source note should contain that URL directly or retain a local link that publishing converts. Direct URLs are simpler for readers but require network access while editing. Local links are pleasant in Logseq, but need a conversion step wherever the garden is published or viewed without its asset directory.
    • My Notes
      • In theory, could use relative paths in logseq itself, using a mount locally, then when publishing to CI in a public repo like logseq-encode-garden or gitpa, I could provide a secret that would enable CI to convert those relative b2 references to the CDN version.
      • The key concern here is honoring My/Principle/Make the Right Thing Easy and the Wrong Thing Hard when it comes to my AI agents. Sometimes I use Codex to edit my logseq-encode-garden when I'm away from my machine.
  • This is an alternative to Git LFS only if we supply the bookkeeping LFS normally provides: a committed record of each B2 object key and checksum, a way to fetch it on a new device, and a rule against overwriting an object already referenced by a note. rclone handles transfer; it does not tie remote file versions to Git commits. I’d pilot one public image and one private asset before moving the gardens’ existing files. Git LFS documentation, rclone B2 paths
    • My Note
      • This is the reason I thought maybe dvc/vs/git-lfs would be useful as a replacement for git/lfs. If this is necessary, then maybe we should consider dvc again.
      • Given , it might be useful for other reasons as well - here, we have a pipeline where we have different types of files that might need to be converted. For example, we may need to turn .wav into mp3, to compile multiple audio tracks into one, etc.
        • AI/Response DVC could record those input/output dependencies and rerun conversions when inputs change. It would still leave the separate publication step that copies the chosen MP3 to a stable CDN path. The first episode can use mise tasks for conversion and upload; a later DVC trial can compare whether its versioning and pipeline features remove enough manual work to justify another tool. DVC pipeline documentation
  • The 1Password environment can provide B2 credentials to the rclone process. I’d use keys scoped to the appropriate bucket and separate public and private credentials. The rclone remote name is only a local connection name; a path such as remote:bucket/prefix selects storage. That distinction should settle the design behind dotfiles issue #131 before choosing its final name.
    • My Notes
      • In general, for my logseq repos, I'd like to come up with a proposal that honors My/Principle/Simplify/Create Uniform Interfaces. The obvious thing is using bucket names that match the repo name for assets for that repo. That said, I'm not thinking that gitpa needs its own bucket at this time as I'd like to optimize for logseq-encode-garden.
  • One remaining decision changes the private workflow: should those assets still open in Logseq when your Mac is offline? If yes, I recommend downloaded local copies; if no, we can test a mount first.
• My/Response 14:31
  • I've added some comments above. What do you think the obvious next steps are?
• AI/Response
  • The mount sounds like the right first local editing experience. The unresolved part is what a note's ../assets/b2/... link means when the mount is absent: on another device, in an agent's checkout, on GitHub, and in the published garden. A publishing task can translate the link, but the raw Markdown on GitHub would still point to a missing local file.
  • The translation itself does not need a secret. A documented object-path convention or a Git-tracked manifest can map a relative path to a public CDN URL. Uploading or checking a nonpublic B2 object needs credentials. CI should receive a narrowly scoped key for those operations; the local 1Password/Environment is not automatically available in CI.
  • To make this safe for agents away from the Mac, use the same mise entry points in every checkout. An asset task should check that the file or remote object exists, upload when authorized, and produce the exact Logseq link and public URL. A publish check should fail on unresolved assets/b2 links. An agent without the mount or upload credentials should be able to edit notes, but should not create a link that silently breaks on publication.
  • A bucket per garden is a good default when its audience and ownership are distinct: the existing encode-garden bucket can also hold Gitpa media under a podcast prefix if its public access is configured appropriately, while the private garden needs a separate private bucket for assets available only to authenticated devices. Confirm the existing bucket's visibility and key scope before reusing it. A rclone/remote names a connection and credential scope; it need not have the same name as the bucket or repo. Backblaze bucket access settings, rclone B2 path syntax
  • dvc is worth a separate experiment if versioned binary inputs and repeatable conversions become central. Its .dvc files and lockfiles can record content hashes and pipeline dependencies, and Backblaze offers an S3-compatible endpoint for a DVC remote. DVC's content-addressed storage still needs a publishing step that copies selected outputs to stable, readable CDN object paths. It would not remove the link-translation problem. Keep the first podcast asset pilot on rclone so the publishing workflow can move ahead. DVC file tracking, DVC pipelines, Backblaze S3-compatible API
  • Obvious next steps:
    • Confirm the 1Password-backed log: rclone remote can list the existing logseq-encode-garden bucket.
    • Confirm the existing bucket is allPublic and inspect the current application's key scope through the read-only Backblaze API. The current key has account-wide administrative scope, broader than publishing needs. Backblaze authorization API, bucket metadata API
    • Rename the existing 1Password Environment to Backblaze administration and create an empty logseq-encode-publishing Environment.
    • Create and test a key scoped to logseq-encode-garden/gitpa/episodes/, add it to logseq-encode-publishing, and mount that Environment for the Gitpa publishing task.
    • Upload the September 25 MP3 to gitpa/episodes/ in the existing public bucket and verify the scoped key can use that prefix without deleting unrelated objects.
    • TODO Decide whether public source notes use stable media-domain URLs or relative assets/.remote links; test rendering and link checks in Logseq, a clean checkout, and an agent sandbox before fixing the convention.
      • My Note I articulated My/Pref/Logseq/Asset/Remote - I was thinking that I might want my remote store mount location to be independent of naming the provider. This approach might involve some rclone or other config file though - thoughts?
        • AI/Response assets/.remote gives every garden the same path in notes while allowing the storage provider to change. Keep the nonsecret mapping in each garden's mise.toml: an rclone source such as log:logseq-encode-garden, plus a public CDN base URL only for public gardens. Keep the rclone backend definition in dotfiles and credentials in 1Password. A separate garden config file is unnecessary unless mise.toml becomes crowded.
        • Add /assets/.remote/ to each garden's .gitignore; the leading dot does not make Git ignore the directory. A task can create the mountpoint before mounting. Test that this hidden directory renders correctly in Logseq before adopting the convention across gardens. The task should detect an absent mount and never treat an empty directory as proof that a referenced object exists.
        • For the public-garden pilot, a read-only mount plus an explicit upload task makes accidental remote deletion harder. The same assets/.remote path can point to a different bucket in a private garden, with its own scoped key and 1Password environment. The current public publishing key is account-wide; replace it with a bucket-scoped key before giving any credential to CI.
          • My Note
            • Can you articulate the exact scenario that is motivating your prioritization of "accidental remote deletion" is? I'm not sure it's likely to be common or applicable. It's important that I have some kind of recourse, of course. But for this public garden, I'm more concerned with having the requisite flexibility to move transition towards using remote assets.
            • It's much more likely that I'll need my agents to rename or move files and then I'll be barraged by permission prompts.
              • If we have a remote mount, then that also means that local hard drive backups aren't a viable option for backing up the garden assets.
              • I'm still uncertain that remote is best - one of the key things that agents do is use tools like rg piped to other tools. If I'm using yazi with the plugin that lets me search PDFs, for example, is that going to work in remote?
              • AI/Response I overweighted accidental deletion. The specific case is a writable mount turning an ordinary rm or mv into B2 operations. B2 has no atomic file rename, so moves can become copy then delete; the current log: config also has hard_delete=true, which permanently removes files on deletion instead of retaining a hidden version. That is a recovery hazard, but a read-only mount would obstruct the file organization you expect. A bucket-scoped key that permits normal moves, hard_delete=false, a sensible version-retention policy, and a separately tested backup are better controls if a writable mount proves useful. rclone move, rclone B2 versions and hard delete, Backblaze file versions
              • A mount is a live view of remote objects, not a dependable local backup. A deliberate local copy or mirror could be backed up to a hard drive, but then keeping active assets local may be simpler. The garden currently has about 178 MB in assets/ and no Git LFS files, so there is no immediate need to move the images and PDFs that agents edit or search. B2 can first hold exported podcast media and selected large published assets; the existing local assets/ workflow can continue for notes and searchable source material.
              • Your Yazi F a shortcut uses rga to search inside PDFs. If a PDF is exposed by a mount, rga can read it as a file, but a search may fetch remote bytes and will depend on network and VFS cache behavior. rg alone does not extract PDF text. A further complication: your My/Pref/Dev/Tool/git/Worktree note says Logseq skips dot-prefixed directories during scanning, and rg/rga normally skip hidden paths unless told otherwise. Test whether an explicit Logseq link to assets/.remote renders and whether F a finds a mounted PDF before treating that path as a convention. rclone mount VFS cache
        • CI can map a relative .remote link to a public CDN URL from the checked-in mapping without a secret. An upload or private-object check needs credentials. Raw GitHub Markdown will still show the local link, so decide whether GitHub rendering matters for these notes before settling the source-link convention.
          • My Note

            • so decide whether GitHub rendering matters for these notes before settling the source-link convention
              

              • that's fine
    • TODO Test one public asset end to end without requiring a mount: upload through a scoped mise task, use a stable media URL, and check that Logseq and an agent's clean checkout render it.
    • TODO Decide which asset types stay local and searchable in Git and which published outputs belong in B2; keep the existing images and PDFs local during the first podcast pilot.
    • TODO Compare an optional writable assets/.remote mount with on-demand local copies: test Logseq rendering, Yazi F a PDF search, rename/move behavior, write-back, remote requests, and agent sandbox access.
    • TODO Before relying on B2-only assets, define and test recovery from deletion and a separate local or second-location backup; revisit hard_delete=true and bucket lifecycle settings.
    • TODO Prototype private-bucket access on an authenticated device; decide whether a mount or on-demand local copy better fits private notes and offline use.
    • TODO Revisit the remote name in dotfiles issue #131 after the credential scopes and bucket mapping are clear.
• AI/Response
  • The 1Password names now reflect the two roles. Backblaze administration retains the existing account-wide key and its local .env mount. logseq-encode-publishing exists but has no variables or mount yet. The current rclone wrapper still reads the old mount path, so the two roles are not operationally separated until a bucket-scoped key is created and the wrapper is switched.
  • The concern about a read-only mount is fair. The real requirement is that an agent can author a public page from another checkout without this Mac's mount. A stable URL on a media domain you control lets Logseq, GitHub, CI, and remote agents read an existing public asset directly. A local mount or downloaded copy can remain an optional editing convenience. For newly created remote assets, an agent needs a scoped upload path; otherwise the page should use an existing URL or an asset committed to Git until upload is available. This is a design proposal, pending the choice between source URLs and relative links above.
  • rclone mount presents B2 as a filesystem, but a remote file read may fetch data on a cache miss, and directory access may require remote listing. The number of B2 requests depends on rclone's VFS and directory caches; a filesystem read is not always one B2 request. At current Backblaze pay-as-you-go pricing, Class A/B/C API calls are free, while direct downloads count against the included egress of 3× average monthly storage before overage charges. The larger practical costs for this workflow may be latency, offline failure, and sandbox access to FUSE or credentials. Measure a small mount pilot before depending on it. rclone mount and VFS cache, Backblaze transaction pricing, Backblaze B2 pricing